i like this one alot it show the colosalness(if thats a word) of the two gigantic statues. But i think the statue on the right, his right hand should be up not his left hand. but its still great
Comment by ring_lord - April 13, 2001 @ 5:35 PM - Rated a 5
i like this one alot it show the colosalness(if thats a word) of the two gigantic statues. But i think the statue on the right, his right hand should be up not his left hand. but its still great
Comment by ring_lord - April 13, 2001 @ 5:35 PM - Rated a 5
Comment by FrodoTook - July 19, 2001 @ 8:30 PM - Rated a 5
Comment by FrodoTook - July 19, 2001 @ 8:30 PM - Rated a 5
Really dramatic pic. beautifully painted it really gives the sense of power of days long gone by bit like I,m sure, of standing in front of the great pyramids in present day....The only thing both statues look to be identical..can,t remember who but I think there ment to be two different people..maybe isildur and his brother ....
Comment by matain - October 17, 2001 @ 12:50 AM - Rated a 4
Really dramatic pic. beautifully painted it really gives the sense of power of days long gone by bit like I,m sure, of standing in front of the great pyramids in present day....The only thing both statues look to be identical..can,t remember who but I think there ment to be two different people..maybe isildur and his brother ....
Comment by matain - October 17, 2001 @ 12:50 AM - Rated a 4
Good, good, looks very enormous, I'd really have respect of these two brothers
Comment by Endbringer666 - October 17, 2001 @ 4:26 AM - Rated a 4
Good, good, looks very enormous, I'd really have respect of these two brothers
Comment by Endbringer666 - October 17, 2001 @ 4:26 AM - Rated a 4
Just simply awesome. Can't say much more than that, save for I give it a five.
Comment by Calma - October 17, 2001 @ 6:45 AM - Rated a 5
Just simply awesome. Can't say much more than that, save for I give it a five.
Comment by Calma - October 17, 2001 @ 6:45 AM - Rated a 5
The pillars of Argonath, I like it but they should not be identical. They are Isildur and Anarion, the kings of Gondor and Arnor.
I like the one by Howe or Lee, the one they are using in the movie.
Comment by BigMike - October 17, 2001 @ 7:59 AM - Rated a 4
The pillars of Argonath, I like it but they should not be identical. They are Isildur and Anarion, the kings of Gondor and Arnor.
I like the one by Howe or Lee, the one they are using in the movie.
Comment by BigMike - October 17, 2001 @ 7:59 AM - Rated a 4
Love the detail but the statues (as been said before) should not be identical.And just what on earth are they holding in their hands??? Anyway,very good painting (and I usually don't even like Hildebrandt's pics.I guess this is a new one.)
Comment by frodotheringbearer - October 17, 2001 @ 9:20 AM - Rated a 4
Love the detail but the statues (as been said before) should not be identical.And just what on earth are they holding in their hands??? Anyway,very good painting (and I usually don't even like Hildebrandt's pics.I guess this is a new one.)
Comment by frodotheringbearer - October 17, 2001 @ 9:20 AM - Rated a 4
It's a good picture, but it doesn't give me the sense of Gondor's greatness and atmosphere. I don?t like the lighting. That place was darker and it had more splendour.
AND......BOTH ARE IDENTICAL!!!!! AND WHERE ARE THE AXES?
(sorry because of my bad english. I don't speak it a lot)
Comment by TheMarquis - October 17, 2001 @ 10:46 AM - Rated a 1
It's a good picture, but it doesn't give me the sense of Gondor's greatness and atmosphere. I don?t like the lighting. That place was darker and it had more splendour.
AND......BOTH ARE IDENTICAL!!!!! AND WHERE ARE THE AXES?
(sorry because of my bad english. I don't speak it a lot)
Comment by TheMarquis - October 17, 2001 @ 10:46 AM - Rated a 1
Comment by TheMarquis - October 17, 2001 @ 10:49 AM
Comment by TheMarquis - October 17, 2001 @ 10:49 AM
Why do they look like twins? Inspite of this it is a really good painting!
Comment by Mirabella - October 17, 2001 @ 11:30 AM - Rated a 4
Why do they look like twins? Inspite of this it is a really good painting!
Comment by Mirabella - October 17, 2001 @ 11:30 AM - Rated a 4
Incredible!
Comment by Master_of_Arda - October 17, 2001 @ 11:48 AM - Rated a 5
Incredible!
Comment by Master_of_Arda - October 17, 2001 @ 11:48 AM - Rated a 5
Everything I wanted to say has already been said. They are identical and they shouldnt be, minus BUT the sheer size and grandeur of the landscape is portrayed so so well. Just looking at the painting makes you feel small compared to those towering cliffs, plus. The Hidlebrandts always seem to paint light pleasent pictures, this one gives the feel of a summer holiday, it doesn't really give a sense of the epic, dangerous journey the fellowship is undertaking.
Its still a nice pic though :-)
Comment by Magician_ - October 17, 2001 @ 2:25 PM - Rated a 3
Everything I wanted to say has already been said. They are identical and they shouldnt be, minus BUT the sheer size and grandeur of the landscape is portrayed so so well. Just looking at the painting makes you feel small compared to those towering cliffs, plus. The Hidlebrandts always seem to paint light pleasent pictures, this one gives the feel of a summer holiday, it doesn't really give a sense of the epic, dangerous journey the fellowship is undertaking.
Its still a nice pic though :-)
Comment by Magician_ - October 17, 2001 @ 2:25 PM - Rated a 3
In their right hands, of course. The heads of the axes are toward the water. They are holding the axes by the haft.
As for the "weather" in this painting, the Hildebrandt's got it right. Tolkien said of the weather that "suddenly the clouds broke, and their draggled fringes trailed away northward up the River."
"Over them was a lane of pale-blue sky, around them the dark overshadowed River..."
Comment by WonderBroad - October 17, 2001 @ 3:53 PM - Rated a 5
In their right hands, of course. The heads of the axes are toward the water. They are holding the axes by the haft.
As for the "weather" in this painting, the Hildebrandt's got it right. Tolkien said of the weather that "suddenly the clouds broke, and their draggled fringes trailed away northward up the River."
"Over them was a lane of pale-blue sky, around them the dark overshadowed River..."
Comment by WonderBroad - October 17, 2001 @ 3:53 PM - Rated a 5
It is good to see you back again. As for what I was going to say, Ring Lord, the position of their hands is correct; they each have their left hand raised. The axes they hold in their right hands are passable as well, I believe, taking that they are holding axes of war and not of lumbering. The only possiblity of inaccuracy that I can find lies in two things: their crowns, which are said to be crumbling, appear fully intact; though they are brothers, Isildur appears indistinguishable from Anarion here. The landscape is, I believe, correct to the book (if it is not, somebody correct me). The aesthetic quality seems to me to be somewhat lacking, though Hildebrandt shows real skill. I can hardly vote a 1 (as some have done) on a picture that is more or less accurate to the book and well drawn, regardless of how little the picture inspires me. In choosing between a 4 and a 3 I think that to offset unduly harsh critcism a 4 is appropriate.
Comment by Lanklamenyn - October 17, 2001 @ 4:07 PM - Rated a 4
It is good to see you back again. As for what I was going to say, Ring Lord, the position of their hands is correct; they each have their left hand raised. The axes they hold in their right hands are passable as well, I believe, taking that they are holding axes of war and not of lumbering. The only possiblity of inaccuracy that I can find lies in two things: their crowns, which are said to be crumbling, appear fully intact; though they are brothers, Isildur appears indistinguishable from Anarion here. The landscape is, I believe, correct to the book (if it is not, somebody correct me). The aesthetic quality seems to me to be somewhat lacking, though Hildebrandt shows real skill. I can hardly vote a 1 (as some have done) on a picture that is more or less accurate to the book and well drawn, regardless of how little the picture inspires me. In choosing between a 4 and a 3 I think that to offset unduly harsh critcism a 4 is appropriate.
Comment by Lanklamenyn - October 17, 2001 @ 4:07 PM - Rated a 4
The lighting and all is very nice. Kind of like some well known Western landscape paintings... just to add a thought to those already given here.
Comment by Aignatius - October 17, 2001 @ 9:35 PM - Rated a 3
The lighting and all is very nice. Kind of like some well known Western landscape paintings... just to add a thought to those already given here.
Comment by Aignatius - October 17, 2001 @ 9:35 PM - Rated a 3
Bit dissapointed with the likeness of the two colosses, but appart from that its pretty mindbogling. Gotta give it a four. And the light.. I think its pretty good acctually, maybe the green-blue-ish colour in the movies is able to topp it (from the last trailer), but appart from that its very well done. The scale is monstrous.
Comment by Gandalf_Greyhame - October 17, 2001 @ 10:52 PM - Rated a 4
Bit dissapointed with the likeness of the two colosses, but appart from that its pretty mindbogling. Gotta give it a four. And the light.. I think its pretty good acctually, maybe the green-blue-ish colour in the movies is able to topp it (from the last trailer), but appart from that its very well done. The scale is monstrous.
Comment by Gandalf_Greyhame - October 17, 2001 @ 10:52 PM - Rated a 4
Once again I am torn with Hildebrandts work. It is a wonderful peice of work, but with most of his work, it lacks something. Aside from the enormity it portrays, it lacks menace. Lee's portrayal, which is the one used in the movie I believe, if far more menacing. These two guys look like they are about to recite an oath. And as everyone else has said... they are identical. But it's still a nice piece of artistry.
Comment by articusmaximus - October 18, 2001 @ 5:43 AM - Rated a 3
Once again I am torn with Hildebrandts work. It is a wonderful peice of work, but with most of his work, it lacks something. Aside from the enormity it portrays, it lacks menace. Lee's portrayal, which is the one used in the movie I believe, if far more menacing. These two guys look like they are about to recite an oath. And as everyone else has said... they are identical. But it's still a nice piece of artistry.
Comment by articusmaximus - October 18, 2001 @ 5:43 AM - Rated a 3
I agree, this painting isn't as menacing as lee's work,but much more true to the book.Lanklamenyn is right about the crown's,and the axe's they are holding are accurate as a weapon of battle,you couldnt chop wood with them,because of the tips,and if you are going to use a hand gesture to stop someone,(as in halt)wouldn't this be it?Doesnt look like there waving to me,especially if you look at the painting more that 20 seconds.I believe this to be more like Tolkien had invisioned it in his mind,since you were dealing with different civilizations,and cultures in the book,not everyone was bent on being potrayed as menacing in the same light,there sheer size was menacing enough,then comes the account of accuracy,to whom you are potraying.But i'm sure Lee's depiction will work much better in the movie since it looks more............ menacing.
Comment by livin_lizard - October 18, 2001 @ 8:17 AM - Rated a 5
I agree, this painting isn't as menacing as lee's work,but much more true to the book.Lanklamenyn is right about the crown's,and the axe's they are holding are accurate as a weapon of battle,you couldnt chop wood with them,because of the tips,and if you are going to use a hand gesture to stop someone,(as in halt)wouldn't this be it?Doesnt look like there waving to me,especially if you look at the painting more that 20 seconds.I believe this to be more like Tolkien had invisioned it in his mind,since you were dealing with different civilizations,and cultures in the book,not everyone was bent on being potrayed as menacing in the same light,there sheer size was menacing enough,then comes the account of accuracy,to whom you are potraying.But i'm sure Lee's depiction will work much better in the movie since it looks more............ menacing.
Comment by livin_lizard - October 18, 2001 @ 8:17 AM - Rated a 5
Hey folks. True enuf that the axes ain't for lumbering, but I don't think they're for war, either. Those things are known as 'bush axes' and faithfully depict a common pre-industrial farm implement. There was one in my grandpa's toolshed. And like a scythe, it was one mama of a backbreaker. Suckers were used to de-shrubbery the meadows, and I must say they look odd to me in the hands of the carven lords. During peasant revolts or for conscripted commoners, these tools often got used as weapons. Perhaps the artist saw 'em depicted in some painting and liked the decidedly sinister look of this implement. I think they look incongruously rustic.
And the Numenoreans may've been good with stone, but unless these things were made of Orthanc-stone, their arms would've been raised close to their bodies in a unified column form for strength. As it is, they look unreal.
The scenery is wonderful tho. Local real-estate may be cheap, since the statues probably bring prices down, like water towers.
Comment by naurghash - October 18, 2001 @ 12:19 PM - Rated a 3
Hey folks. True enuf that the axes ain't for lumbering, but I don't think they're for war, either. Those things are known as 'bush axes' and faithfully depict a common pre-industrial farm implement. There was one in my grandpa's toolshed. And like a scythe, it was one mama of a backbreaker. Suckers were used to de-shrubbery the meadows, and I must say they look odd to me in the hands of the carven lords. During peasant revolts or for conscripted commoners, these tools often got used as weapons. Perhaps the artist saw 'em depicted in some painting and liked the decidedly sinister look of this implement. I think they look incongruously rustic.
And the Numenoreans may've been good with stone, but unless these things were made of Orthanc-stone, their arms would've been raised close to their bodies in a unified column form for strength. As it is, they look unreal.
The scenery is wonderful tho. Local real-estate may be cheap, since the statues probably bring prices down, like water towers.
Comment by naurghash - October 18, 2001 @ 12:19 PM - Rated a 3
Awesome, plain and simple - very majestic and powerful. As stated already, the two Kings shouldn't be identical, but whatever. Maybe it's not exactly as the book describes, but it still creates an amazing sense of grandeur.
Comment by Melfenion - October 18, 2001 @ 1:03 PM - Rated a 5
Awesome, plain and simple - very majestic and powerful. As stated already, the two Kings shouldn't be identical, but whatever. Maybe it's not exactly as the book describes, but it still creates an amazing sense of grandeur.
Comment by Melfenion - October 18, 2001 @ 1:03 PM - Rated a 5
A friend of mine has one of the old Hildebrandt calendars, and this is a pic from it (in case you wondered where they got it). I always liked the Hildebrandts' work, so I guess my rating could be deflated because of it. It is hard not ot agree with a lot of the comments - they do not look as menacing as many have pictured them to be - but the majesty and size are certainly impressive in my opinion. And as for the structural comments, the Numoreans did things with stone that nobody else could. I'm sure they figured out some way to get those outstretched arms to stay put without falling off...
Comment by kidd1069 - October 18, 2001 @ 1:49 PM - Rated a 5
A friend of mine has one of the old Hildebrandt calendars, and this is a pic from it (in case you wondered where they got it). I always liked the Hildebrandts' work, so I guess my rating could be deflated because of it. It is hard not ot agree with a lot of the comments - they do not look as menacing as many have pictured them to be - but the majesty and size are certainly impressive in my opinion. And as for the structural comments, the Numoreans did things with stone that nobody else could. I'm sure they figured out some way to get those outstretched arms to stay put without falling off...
Comment by kidd1069 - October 18, 2001 @ 1:49 PM - Rated a 5
btu only nice it is a great pic technically but it dosen't....oh say,.... speak to me.
Comment by VeiledAiel - October 18, 2001 @ 4:34 PM - Rated a 3
btu only nice it is a great pic technically but it dosen't....oh say,.... speak to me.
Comment by VeiledAiel - October 18, 2001 @ 4:34 PM - Rated a 3
it's nice but the Angorath's faces don't look so good to me
Comment by Aragorn1984 - October 19, 2001 @ 1:44 AM - Rated a 4
it's nice but the Angorath's faces don't look so good to me
Comment by Aragorn1984 - October 19, 2001 @ 1:44 AM - Rated a 4
Cradle rules, but the pic is nice
Comment by Aragorn1984 - October 19, 2001 @ 1:45 AM
Cradle rules, but the pic is nice
Comment by Aragorn1984 - October 19, 2001 @ 1:45 AM
Mighty staues, mighty picture...
Comment by Bendji - October 20, 2001 @ 7:52 AM - Rated a 3
Mighty staues, mighty picture...
Comment by Bendji - October 20, 2001 @ 7:52 AM - Rated a 3
I certainly did not "inflate my rating" for your sake. As I said, I was divided between a 3 and a 4; had several people not given exceptionally low ratings (indeed, I do not understand your own justification for rating an exceptionally skillful piece at just one point below rock bottom–but of course, your reasons are your own and I would not ask you to change your vote even if such a thing were possible) I might have voted 4 anyway. If I really did want to 'inflate my rating' I would have voted a 5 (something that I think would be obvious if one gave the matter any amount of thought whatsoever); and if I did not think that the opinions others had were valid or interesting I certainly would not be engaged in this online activity at all (another point that should be fairly obvious).
Comment by Lanklamenyn - October 20, 2001 @ 10:56 AM
I certainly did not "inflate my rating" for your sake. As I said, I was divided between a 3 and a 4; had several people not given exceptionally low ratings (indeed, I do not understand your own justification for rating an exceptionally skillful piece at just one point below rock bottom–but of course, your reasons are your own and I would not ask you to change your vote even if such a thing were possible) I might have voted 4 anyway. If I really did want to 'inflate my rating' I would have voted a 5 (something that I think would be obvious if one gave the matter any amount of thought whatsoever); and if I did not think that the opinions others had were valid or interesting I certainly would not be engaged in this online activity at all (another point that should be fairly obvious).
Comment by Lanklamenyn - October 20, 2001 @ 10:56 AM
I also have the older Hildebrants calenders. I didn't dig them out of storage but I think was late 70's. Quit collecting them when I could't find anymore designed by Hildebrant's. No one else could come close to capturing the real Middle Earth topography and characters.
Comment by SAEL_ADAR - October 21, 2001 @ 5:47 AM - Rated a 5
I also have the older Hildebrants calenders. I didn't dig them out of storage but I think was late 70's. Quit collecting them when I could't find anymore designed by Hildebrant's. No one else could come close to capturing the real Middle Earth topography and characters.
Comment by SAEL_ADAR - October 21, 2001 @ 5:47 AM - Rated a 5
I'm ashamed to admit that I could not see the axes' heads until now...Now that I see 'em,I have no idea what to think of them.Also,the pillars (and therefore the entire landscape,I guess) should be grey and the lands beyond the pillars should be,as Sam says,a horrible place with sheer cliffs on either side of the stream (the narrow stream;Aragorn commands the rest to keep the boats in line in the middle of it). For this reasons,I would like to change my rating to 3. The last time I saw this pic,already the landscape appeared a bit too brown and bright to me,but I didn't remember the lines in the book so I guessed the image was pretty accurate.Now I think it's not,therefore the 3.Still,a very nice piece of art!
Comment by frodotheringbearer - October 21, 2001 @ 9:44 AM
I'm ashamed to admit that I could not see the axes' heads until now...Now that I see 'em,I have no idea what to think of them.Also,the pillars (and therefore the entire landscape,I guess) should be grey and the lands beyond the pillars should be,as Sam says,a horrible place with sheer cliffs on either side of the stream (the narrow stream;Aragorn commands the rest to keep the boats in line in the middle of it). For this reasons,I would like to change my rating to 3. The last time I saw this pic,already the landscape appeared a bit too brown and bright to me,but I didn't remember the lines in the book so I guessed the image was pretty accurate.Now I think it's not,therefore the 3.Still,a very nice piece of art!
Comment by frodotheringbearer - October 21, 2001 @ 9:44 AM
is a nice pic, of course, Hildebrandt is a good painter, but these statues didn't seem to me the same that tolkien describe.... i suppose have to be different not like a copy and like ceiling_fun said, it seems that they are greeting instead stopping.....
Comment by damaGaladriel - October 21, 2001 @ 11:03 PM - Rated a 3
is a nice pic, of course, Hildebrandt is a good painter, but these statues didn't seem to me the same that tolkien describe.... i suppose have to be different not like a copy and like ceiling_fun said, it seems that they are greeting instead stopping.....
Comment by damaGaladriel - October 21, 2001 @ 11:03 PM - Rated a 3
Mostly - apart from the near identicalness(?) of the two kings and the waving hands. I also would have expected to see some gloominess to the sky on the left as they neared Mordor. Otherwise, I think it gives us an atmoshere of the grandeur that was portrayed in the book.
Comment by Hornbeam - October 22, 2001 @ 1:16 AM - Rated a 3
Mostly - apart from the near identicalness(?) of the two kings and the waving hands. I also would have expected to see some gloominess to the sky on the left as they neared Mordor. Otherwise, I think it gives us an atmoshere of the grandeur that was portrayed in the book.
Comment by Hornbeam - October 22, 2001 @ 1:16 AM - Rated a 3
It feels a bit disappointing. The kings look corny to me, not menacing. - And indentical. - And without the wear of the years gone by...
Comment by hrimfakse - November 13, 2001 @ 5:40 AM - Rated a 3
It feels a bit disappointing. The kings look corny to me, not menacing. - And indentical. - And without the wear of the years gone by...
Comment by hrimfakse - November 13, 2001 @ 5:40 AM - Rated a 3
for once.
Comment by LadyEowynKenobi - January 23, 2002 @ 12:49 PM - Rated a 2
for once.
Comment by LadyEowynKenobi - January 23, 2002 @ 12:49 PM - Rated a 2
The picture is just toooo much, and so was the movie version (but it was better done), wonder if the arms are hald up by magic
Comment by frantic - March 25, 2002 @ 7:24 AM - Rated a 1
The picture is just toooo much, and so was the movie version (but it was better done), wonder if the arms are hald up by magic
Comment by frantic - March 25, 2002 @ 7:24 AM - Rated a 1
i thought it was meant to b more majestic but good picture
Comment by Silver_woods19 - April 25, 2002 @ 10:00 AM - Rated a 4
i thought it was meant to b more majestic but good picture
Comment by Silver_woods19 - April 25, 2002 @ 10:00 AM - Rated a 4
i thought it was meant to b more majestic but good picture
Comment by Silver_woods19 - April 25, 2002 @ 10:00 AM - Rated a 4
i thought it was meant to b more majestic but good picture
Comment by Silver_woods19 - April 25, 2002 @ 10:00 AM - Rated a 4
I love that over-whelming/larger-than-life-feel that you get when you see how tiny the boats are!
Comment by celadinebanks - July 9, 2002 @ 10:55 AM - Rated a 5
I love that over-whelming/larger-than-life-feel that you get when you see how tiny the boats are!
Comment by celadinebanks - July 9, 2002 @ 10:55 AM - Rated a 5
GEEZE!!
Comment by Legolas+Me=LUV - July 10, 2002 @ 2:08 PM - Rated a 2
GEEZE!!
Comment by Legolas+Me=LUV - July 10, 2002 @ 2:08 PM - Rated a 2
Comment by EowynEorling - February 21, 2003 @ 1:24 PM - Rated a 4
Comment by EowynEorling - February 21, 2003 @ 1:24 PM - Rated a 4
Nagyszerű kép....Exuse me...Hildebrant is a fantastic drawer, but...in the movie there are better statues!
Comment by July_the_Hu - April 4, 2003 @ 1:05 PM - Rated a 4
Nagyszerű kép....Exuse me...Hildebrant is a fantastic drawer, but...in the movie there are better statues!
Comment by July_the_Hu - April 4, 2003 @ 1:05 PM - Rated a 4
........
Comment by horsemaster-of-rohan - June 3, 2004 @ 11:47 PM - Rated a 5
..but likely got no credit. I still love this image and I'm not slavish about the Hildebrandts. It's just that they were there, devoted to Tolkien, interpreting him when nobody else was. I'd say they were the proto-painters. Sure, they've been bettered, but somebody had to bat first. This was one of their home runs.
Comment by Beleg - September 27, 2004 @ 2:56 PM - Rated a 5
i like this one alot it show the colosalness(if thats a word) of the two gigantic statues. But i think the statue on the right, his right hand should be up not his left hand. but its still great
Comment by ring_lord - April 13, 2001 @ 5:35 PM - Rated a 5
i like this one alot it show the colosalness(if thats a word) of the two gigantic statues. But i think the statue on the right, his right hand should be up not his left hand. but its still great
Comment by ring_lord - April 13, 2001 @ 5:35 PM - Rated a 5
Comment by FrodoTook - July 19, 2001 @ 8:30 PM - Rated a 5
Comment by FrodoTook - July 19, 2001 @ 8:30 PM - Rated a 5
Really dramatic pic. beautifully painted it really gives the sense of power of days long gone by bit like I,m sure, of standing in front of the great pyramids in present day....The only thing both statues look to be identical..can,t remember who but I think there ment to be two different people..maybe isildur and his brother ....
Comment by matain - October 17, 2001 @ 12:50 AM - Rated a 4
Really dramatic pic. beautifully painted it really gives the sense of power of days long gone by bit like I,m sure, of standing in front of the great pyramids in present day....The only thing both statues look to be identical..can,t remember who but I think there ment to be two different people..maybe isildur and his brother ....
Comment by matain - October 17, 2001 @ 12:50 AM - Rated a 4
Good, good, looks very enormous, I'd really have respect of these two brothers
Comment by Endbringer666 - October 17, 2001 @ 4:26 AM - Rated a 4
Good, good, looks very enormous, I'd really have respect of these two brothers
Comment by Endbringer666 - October 17, 2001 @ 4:26 AM - Rated a 4
Just simply awesome. Can't say much more than that, save for I give it a five.
Comment by Calma - October 17, 2001 @ 6:45 AM - Rated a 5
Just simply awesome. Can't say much more than that, save for I give it a five.
Comment by Calma - October 17, 2001 @ 6:45 AM - Rated a 5
The pillars of Argonath, I like it but they should not be identical. They are Isildur and Anarion, the kings of Gondor and Arnor.
I like the one by Howe or Lee, the one they are using in the movie.
Comment by BigMike - October 17, 2001 @ 7:59 AM - Rated a 4
The pillars of Argonath, I like it but they should not be identical. They are Isildur and Anarion, the kings of Gondor and Arnor.
I like the one by Howe or Lee, the one they are using in the movie.
Comment by BigMike - October 17, 2001 @ 7:59 AM - Rated a 4
Love the detail but the statues (as been said before) should not be identical.And just what on earth are they holding in their hands???
Anyway,very good painting (and I usually don't even like Hildebrandt's pics.I guess this is a new one.)
Comment by frodotheringbearer - October 17, 2001 @ 9:20 AM - Rated a 4
Love the detail but the statues (as been said before) should not be identical.And just what on earth are they holding in their hands???
Anyway,very good painting (and I usually don't even like Hildebrandt's pics.I guess this is a new one.)
Comment by frodotheringbearer - October 17, 2001 @ 9:20 AM - Rated a 4
It's a good picture, but it doesn't give me the sense of Gondor's greatness and atmosphere.
I don?t like the lighting. That place was darker and it had more splendour.
AND......BOTH ARE IDENTICAL!!!!! AND WHERE ARE THE AXES?
(sorry because of my bad english. I don't speak it a lot)
Comment by TheMarquis - October 17, 2001 @ 10:46 AM - Rated a 1
It's a good picture, but it doesn't give me the sense of Gondor's greatness and atmosphere.
I don?t like the lighting. That place was darker and it had more splendour.
AND......BOTH ARE IDENTICAL!!!!! AND WHERE ARE THE AXES?
(sorry because of my bad english. I don't speak it a lot)
Comment by TheMarquis - October 17, 2001 @ 10:46 AM - Rated a 1
Comment by TheMarquis - October 17, 2001 @ 10:49 AM
Comment by TheMarquis - October 17, 2001 @ 10:49 AM
Why do they look like twins?
Inspite of this it is a really good painting!
Comment by Mirabella - October 17, 2001 @ 11:30 AM - Rated a 4
Why do they look like twins?
Inspite of this it is a really good painting!
Comment by Mirabella - October 17, 2001 @ 11:30 AM - Rated a 4
Incredible!
Comment by Master_of_Arda - October 17, 2001 @ 11:48 AM - Rated a 5
Incredible!
Comment by Master_of_Arda - October 17, 2001 @ 11:48 AM - Rated a 5
Everything I wanted to say has already been said.
They are identical and they shouldnt be, minus
BUT the sheer size and grandeur of the landscape is portrayed so so well. Just looking at the painting makes you feel small compared to those towering cliffs, plus.
The Hidlebrandts always seem to paint light pleasent pictures, this one gives the feel of a summer holiday, it doesn't really give a sense of the epic, dangerous journey the fellowship is undertaking.
Its still a nice pic though :-)
Comment by Magician_ - October 17, 2001 @ 2:25 PM - Rated a 3
Everything I wanted to say has already been said.
They are identical and they shouldnt be, minus
BUT the sheer size and grandeur of the landscape is portrayed so so well. Just looking at the painting makes you feel small compared to those towering cliffs, plus.
The Hidlebrandts always seem to paint light pleasent pictures, this one gives the feel of a summer holiday, it doesn't really give a sense of the epic, dangerous journey the fellowship is undertaking.
Its still a nice pic though :-)
Comment by Magician_ - October 17, 2001 @ 2:25 PM - Rated a 3
In their right hands, of course. The heads of the axes are toward the water. They are holding the axes by the haft.
As for the "weather" in this painting, the Hildebrandt's got it right. Tolkien said of the weather that "suddenly the clouds broke, and their draggled fringes trailed away northward up the River."
"Over them was a lane of pale-blue sky, around them the dark overshadowed River..."
Comment by WonderBroad - October 17, 2001 @ 3:53 PM - Rated a 5
In their right hands, of course. The heads of the axes are toward the water. They are holding the axes by the haft.
As for the "weather" in this painting, the Hildebrandt's got it right. Tolkien said of the weather that "suddenly the clouds broke, and their draggled fringes trailed away northward up the River."
"Over them was a lane of pale-blue sky, around them the dark overshadowed River..."
Comment by WonderBroad - October 17, 2001 @ 3:53 PM - Rated a 5
It is good to see you back again. As for what I was going to say, Ring Lord, the position of their hands is correct; they each have their left hand raised. The axes they hold in their right hands are passable as well, I believe, taking that they are holding axes of war and not of lumbering. The only possiblity of inaccuracy that I can find lies in two things: their crowns, which are said to be crumbling, appear fully intact; though they are brothers, Isildur appears indistinguishable from Anarion here. The landscape is, I believe, correct to the book (if it is not, somebody correct me). The aesthetic quality seems to me to be somewhat lacking, though Hildebrandt shows real skill. I can hardly vote a 1 (as some have done) on a picture that is more or less accurate to the book and well drawn, regardless of how little the picture inspires me. In choosing between a 4 and a 3 I think that to offset unduly harsh critcism a 4 is appropriate.
Comment by Lanklamenyn - October 17, 2001 @ 4:07 PM - Rated a 4
It is good to see you back again. As for what I was going to say, Ring Lord, the position of their hands is correct; they each have their left hand raised. The axes they hold in their right hands are passable as well, I believe, taking that they are holding axes of war and not of lumbering. The only possiblity of inaccuracy that I can find lies in two things: their crowns, which are said to be crumbling, appear fully intact; though they are brothers, Isildur appears indistinguishable from Anarion here. The landscape is, I believe, correct to the book (if it is not, somebody correct me). The aesthetic quality seems to me to be somewhat lacking, though Hildebrandt shows real skill. I can hardly vote a 1 (as some have done) on a picture that is more or less accurate to the book and well drawn, regardless of how little the picture inspires me. In choosing between a 4 and a 3 I think that to offset unduly harsh critcism a 4 is appropriate.
Comment by Lanklamenyn - October 17, 2001 @ 4:07 PM - Rated a 4
The lighting and all is very nice. Kind of like some well known Western landscape paintings... just to add a thought to those already given here.
Comment by Aignatius - October 17, 2001 @ 9:35 PM - Rated a 3
The lighting and all is very nice. Kind of like some well known Western landscape paintings... just to add a thought to those already given here.
Comment by Aignatius - October 17, 2001 @ 9:35 PM - Rated a 3
Bit dissapointed with the likeness of the two colosses, but appart from that its pretty mindbogling. Gotta give it a four. And the light.. I think its pretty good acctually, maybe the green-blue-ish colour in the movies is able to topp it (from the last trailer), but appart from that its very well done. The scale is monstrous.
Comment by Gandalf_Greyhame - October 17, 2001 @ 10:52 PM - Rated a 4
Bit dissapointed with the likeness of the two colosses, but appart from that its pretty mindbogling. Gotta give it a four. And the light.. I think its pretty good acctually, maybe the green-blue-ish colour in the movies is able to topp it (from the last trailer), but appart from that its very well done. The scale is monstrous.
Comment by Gandalf_Greyhame - October 17, 2001 @ 10:52 PM - Rated a 4
Once again I am torn with Hildebrandts work. It is a wonderful peice of work, but with most of his work, it lacks something. Aside from the enormity it portrays, it lacks menace. Lee's portrayal, which is the one used in the movie I believe, if far more menacing. These two guys look like they are about to recite an oath. And as everyone else has said... they are identical. But it's still a nice piece of artistry.
Comment by articusmaximus - October 18, 2001 @ 5:43 AM - Rated a 3
Once again I am torn with Hildebrandts work. It is a wonderful peice of work, but with most of his work, it lacks something. Aside from the enormity it portrays, it lacks menace. Lee's portrayal, which is the one used in the movie I believe, if far more menacing. These two guys look like they are about to recite an oath. And as everyone else has said... they are identical. But it's still a nice piece of artistry.
Comment by articusmaximus - October 18, 2001 @ 5:43 AM - Rated a 3
I agree, this painting isn't as menacing as lee's work,but much more true to the book.Lanklamenyn is right about the crown's,and the axe's they are holding are accurate as a weapon of battle,you couldnt chop wood with them,because of the tips,and if you are going to use a hand gesture to stop someone,(as in halt)wouldn't this be it?Doesnt look like there waving to me,especially if you look at the painting more that 20 seconds.I believe this to be more like Tolkien had invisioned it in his mind,since you were dealing with different civilizations,and cultures in the book,not everyone was bent on being potrayed as menacing in the same light,there sheer size was menacing enough,then comes the account of accuracy,to whom you are potraying.But i'm sure Lee's depiction will work much better in the movie since it looks more............ menacing.
Comment by livin_lizard - October 18, 2001 @ 8:17 AM - Rated a 5
I agree, this painting isn't as menacing as lee's work,but much more true to the book.Lanklamenyn is right about the crown's,and the axe's they are holding are accurate as a weapon of battle,you couldnt chop wood with them,because of the tips,and if you are going to use a hand gesture to stop someone,(as in halt)wouldn't this be it?Doesnt look like there waving to me,especially if you look at the painting more that 20 seconds.I believe this to be more like Tolkien had invisioned it in his mind,since you were dealing with different civilizations,and cultures in the book,not everyone was bent on being potrayed as menacing in the same light,there sheer size was menacing enough,then comes the account of accuracy,to whom you are potraying.But i'm sure Lee's depiction will work much better in the movie since it looks more............ menacing.
Comment by livin_lizard - October 18, 2001 @ 8:17 AM - Rated a 5
Hey folks. True enuf that the axes ain't for lumbering, but I don't think they're for war, either. Those things are known as 'bush axes' and faithfully depict a common pre-industrial farm implement. There was one in my grandpa's toolshed. And like a scythe, it was one mama of a backbreaker. Suckers were used to de-shrubbery the meadows, and I must say they look odd to me in the hands of the carven lords. During peasant revolts or for conscripted commoners, these tools often got used as weapons. Perhaps the artist saw 'em depicted in some painting and liked the decidedly sinister look of this implement. I think they look incongruously rustic.
And the Numenoreans may've been good with stone, but unless these things were made of Orthanc-stone, their arms would've been raised close to their bodies in a unified column form for strength. As it is, they look unreal.
The scenery is wonderful tho. Local real-estate may be cheap, since the statues probably bring prices down, like water towers.
Comment by naurghash - October 18, 2001 @ 12:19 PM - Rated a 3
Hey folks. True enuf that the axes ain't for lumbering, but I don't think they're for war, either. Those things are known as 'bush axes' and faithfully depict a common pre-industrial farm implement. There was one in my grandpa's toolshed. And like a scythe, it was one mama of a backbreaker. Suckers were used to de-shrubbery the meadows, and I must say they look odd to me in the hands of the carven lords. During peasant revolts or for conscripted commoners, these tools often got used as weapons. Perhaps the artist saw 'em depicted in some painting and liked the decidedly sinister look of this implement. I think they look incongruously rustic.
And the Numenoreans may've been good with stone, but unless these things were made of Orthanc-stone, their arms would've been raised close to their bodies in a unified column form for strength. As it is, they look unreal.
The scenery is wonderful tho. Local real-estate may be cheap, since the statues probably bring prices down, like water towers.
Comment by naurghash - October 18, 2001 @ 12:19 PM - Rated a 3
Awesome, plain and simple - very majestic and powerful. As stated already, the two Kings shouldn't be identical, but whatever. Maybe it's not exactly as the book describes, but it still creates an amazing sense of grandeur.
Comment by Melfenion - October 18, 2001 @ 1:03 PM - Rated a 5
Awesome, plain and simple - very majestic and powerful. As stated already, the two Kings shouldn't be identical, but whatever. Maybe it's not exactly as the book describes, but it still creates an amazing sense of grandeur.
Comment by Melfenion - October 18, 2001 @ 1:03 PM - Rated a 5
A friend of mine has one of the old Hildebrandt calendars, and this is a pic from it (in case you wondered where they got it). I always liked the Hildebrandts' work, so I guess my rating could be deflated because of it. It is hard not ot agree with a lot of the comments - they do not look as menacing as many have pictured them to be - but the majesty and size are certainly impressive in my opinion. And as for the structural comments, the Numoreans did things with stone that nobody else could. I'm sure they figured out some way to get those outstretched arms to stay put without falling off...
Comment by kidd1069 - October 18, 2001 @ 1:49 PM - Rated a 5
A friend of mine has one of the old Hildebrandt calendars, and this is a pic from it (in case you wondered where they got it). I always liked the Hildebrandts' work, so I guess my rating could be deflated because of it. It is hard not ot agree with a lot of the comments - they do not look as menacing as many have pictured them to be - but the majesty and size are certainly impressive in my opinion. And as for the structural comments, the Numoreans did things with stone that nobody else could. I'm sure they figured out some way to get those outstretched arms to stay put without falling off...
Comment by kidd1069 - October 18, 2001 @ 1:49 PM - Rated a 5
btu only nice it is a great pic technically but it dosen't....oh say,.... speak to me.
Comment by VeiledAiel - October 18, 2001 @ 4:34 PM - Rated a 3
btu only nice it is a great pic technically but it dosen't....oh say,.... speak to me.
Comment by VeiledAiel - October 18, 2001 @ 4:34 PM - Rated a 3
it's nice but the Angorath's faces don't look so good to me
Comment by Aragorn1984 - October 19, 2001 @ 1:44 AM - Rated a 4
it's nice but the Angorath's faces don't look so good to me
Comment by Aragorn1984 - October 19, 2001 @ 1:44 AM - Rated a 4
Cradle rules, but the pic is nice
Comment by Aragorn1984 - October 19, 2001 @ 1:45 AM
Cradle rules, but the pic is nice
Comment by Aragorn1984 - October 19, 2001 @ 1:45 AM
Mighty staues, mighty picture...
Comment by Bendji - October 20, 2001 @ 7:52 AM - Rated a 3
Mighty staues, mighty picture...
Comment by Bendji - October 20, 2001 @ 7:52 AM - Rated a 3
I certainly did not "inflate my rating" for your sake. As I said, I was divided between a 3 and a 4; had several people not given exceptionally low ratings (indeed, I do not understand your own justification for rating an exceptionally skillful piece at just one point below rock bottom–but of course, your reasons are your own and I would not ask you to change your vote even if such a thing were possible) I might have voted 4 anyway. If I really did want to 'inflate my rating' I would have voted a 5 (something that I think would be obvious if one gave the matter any amount of thought whatsoever); and if I did not think that the opinions others had were valid or interesting I certainly would not be engaged in this online activity at all (another point that should be fairly obvious).
Comment by Lanklamenyn - October 20, 2001 @ 10:56 AM
I certainly did not "inflate my rating" for your sake. As I said, I was divided between a 3 and a 4; had several people not given exceptionally low ratings (indeed, I do not understand your own justification for rating an exceptionally skillful piece at just one point below rock bottom–but of course, your reasons are your own and I would not ask you to change your vote even if such a thing were possible) I might have voted 4 anyway. If I really did want to 'inflate my rating' I would have voted a 5 (something that I think would be obvious if one gave the matter any amount of thought whatsoever); and if I did not think that the opinions others had were valid or interesting I certainly would not be engaged in this online activity at all (another point that should be fairly obvious).
Comment by Lanklamenyn - October 20, 2001 @ 10:56 AM
I also have the older Hildebrants calenders. I didn't dig them out of storage but I think was late 70's.
Quit collecting them when I could't find anymore designed by Hildebrant's. No one else could come close to capturing the real Middle Earth topography and characters.
Comment by SAEL_ADAR - October 21, 2001 @ 5:47 AM - Rated a 5
I also have the older Hildebrants calenders. I didn't dig them out of storage but I think was late 70's.
Quit collecting them when I could't find anymore designed by Hildebrant's. No one else could come close to capturing the real Middle Earth topography and characters.
Comment by SAEL_ADAR - October 21, 2001 @ 5:47 AM - Rated a 5
I'm ashamed to admit that I could not see the axes' heads until now...Now that I see 'em,I have no idea what to think of them.Also,the pillars (and therefore the entire landscape,I guess) should be grey and the lands beyond the pillars should be,as Sam says,a horrible place with sheer cliffs on either side of the stream (the narrow stream;Aragorn commands the rest to keep the boats in line in the middle of it).
For this reasons,I would like to change my rating to 3.
The last time I saw this pic,already the landscape appeared a bit too brown and bright to me,but I didn't remember the lines in the book so I guessed the image was pretty accurate.Now I think it's not,therefore the 3.Still,a very nice piece of art!
Comment by frodotheringbearer - October 21, 2001 @ 9:44 AM
I'm ashamed to admit that I could not see the axes' heads until now...Now that I see 'em,I have no idea what to think of them.Also,the pillars (and therefore the entire landscape,I guess) should be grey and the lands beyond the pillars should be,as Sam says,a horrible place with sheer cliffs on either side of the stream (the narrow stream;Aragorn commands the rest to keep the boats in line in the middle of it).
For this reasons,I would like to change my rating to 3.
The last time I saw this pic,already the landscape appeared a bit too brown and bright to me,but I didn't remember the lines in the book so I guessed the image was pretty accurate.Now I think it's not,therefore the 3.Still,a very nice piece of art!
Comment by frodotheringbearer - October 21, 2001 @ 9:44 AM
is a nice pic, of course, Hildebrandt is a good painter, but these statues didn't seem to me the same that tolkien describe.... i suppose have to be different not like a copy and like ceiling_fun said, it seems that they are greeting instead stopping.....
Comment by damaGaladriel - October 21, 2001 @ 11:03 PM - Rated a 3
is a nice pic, of course, Hildebrandt is a good painter, but these statues didn't seem to me the same that tolkien describe.... i suppose have to be different not like a copy and like ceiling_fun said, it seems that they are greeting instead stopping.....
Comment by damaGaladriel - October 21, 2001 @ 11:03 PM - Rated a 3
Mostly - apart from the near identicalness(?) of the two kings and the waving hands. I also would have expected to see some gloominess to the sky on the left as they neared Mordor. Otherwise, I think it gives us an atmoshere of the grandeur that was portrayed in the book.
Comment by Hornbeam - October 22, 2001 @ 1:16 AM - Rated a 3
Mostly - apart from the near identicalness(?) of the two kings and the waving hands. I also would have expected to see some gloominess to the sky on the left as they neared Mordor. Otherwise, I think it gives us an atmoshere of the grandeur that was portrayed in the book.
Comment by Hornbeam - October 22, 2001 @ 1:16 AM - Rated a 3
It feels a bit disappointing. The kings look corny to me, not menacing. - And indentical. - And without the wear of the years gone by...
Comment by hrimfakse - November 13, 2001 @ 5:40 AM - Rated a 3
It feels a bit disappointing. The kings look corny to me, not menacing. - And indentical. - And without the wear of the years gone by...
Comment by hrimfakse - November 13, 2001 @ 5:40 AM - Rated a 3
for once.
Comment by LadyEowynKenobi - January 23, 2002 @ 12:49 PM - Rated a 2
for once.
Comment by LadyEowynKenobi - January 23, 2002 @ 12:49 PM - Rated a 2
The picture is just toooo much, and so was the movie version (but it was better done), wonder if the arms are hald up by magic
Comment by frantic - March 25, 2002 @ 7:24 AM - Rated a 1
The picture is just toooo much, and so was the movie version (but it was better done), wonder if the arms are hald up by magic
Comment by frantic - March 25, 2002 @ 7:24 AM - Rated a 1
i thought it was meant to b more majestic but good picture
Comment by Silver_woods19 - April 25, 2002 @ 10:00 AM - Rated a 4
i thought it was meant to b more majestic but good picture
Comment by Silver_woods19 - April 25, 2002 @ 10:00 AM - Rated a 4
i thought it was meant to b more majestic but good picture
Comment by Silver_woods19 - April 25, 2002 @ 10:00 AM - Rated a 4
i thought it was meant to b more majestic but good picture
Comment by Silver_woods19 - April 25, 2002 @ 10:00 AM - Rated a 4
I love that over-whelming/larger-than-life-feel that you get when you see how tiny the boats are!
Comment by celadinebanks - July 9, 2002 @ 10:55 AM - Rated a 5
I love that over-whelming/larger-than-life-feel that you get when you see how tiny the boats are!
Comment by celadinebanks - July 9, 2002 @ 10:55 AM - Rated a 5
GEEZE!!
Comment by Legolas+Me=LUV - July 10, 2002 @ 2:08 PM - Rated a 2
GEEZE!!
Comment by Legolas+Me=LUV - July 10, 2002 @ 2:08 PM - Rated a 2
Comment by EowynEorling - February 21, 2003 @ 1:24 PM - Rated a 4
Comment by EowynEorling - February 21, 2003 @ 1:24 PM - Rated a 4
Nagyszerű kép....Exuse me...Hildebrant is a fantastic drawer, but...in the movie there are better statues!
Comment by July_the_Hu - April 4, 2003 @ 1:05 PM - Rated a 4
Nagyszerű kép....Exuse me...Hildebrant is a fantastic drawer, but...in the movie there are better statues!
Comment by July_the_Hu - April 4, 2003 @ 1:05 PM - Rated a 4
........
Comment by horsemaster-of-rohan - June 3, 2004 @ 11:47 PM - Rated a 5
..but likely got no credit. I still love this image and I'm not slavish about the Hildebrandts. It's just that they were there, devoted to Tolkien, interpreting him when nobody else was. I'd say they were the proto-painters. Sure, they've been bettered, but somebody had to bat first. This was one of their home runs.
Comment by Beleg - September 27, 2004 @ 2:56 PM - Rated a 5