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ROTK Review - OR: Good Movie bad ending
April 17, 2004
Submitted By Khand
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Then the people set out for Orthanc to see Saruman. Just one question, where's Saruman, is he dead, alive, eating, sleeping, what? I guess we expect he's dead.
Then when they see Merry and Pippin, Merry's asleep, Pippin drunk and high. Not in the movie.
King Theoden's never seen a hobbit before. So he sees Merry & Pippin and is puzzled at who and what they are. In the movie, we expect him to know what and who they are.
When Pippin finds the Palantiri, how does it fall out of the tower into just the place they're going to walk by? Did Saruman go crazy and throw it out? Did he eat Grima, put him in the water then threw the stone on top of him? No, Pippin just happens to find it.
So then the scene ends. What? Couldn't Saruman just transport to Mordor? He still has his staff. He could use that. Gandalf actually breaks his staff. But instead we are led to believe that he just lost it. Or that Treebeard when up into the tower and ate him.
Stay true to the books!
So they have their whole party and Pippin looks into the Palantiri and Gandalf takes him to Minas Tirith. Um, where's the wall, the big wall that surrounds the Pellenor, it's gone.
Also, the beacons are already lit when they're riding. Denethor knows that he needs help but still hates everyone else. So they go up, talk to him, come down.
Where Bergil and Beregond go? I guess they're not real.
Again: Stay true to the books!
Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli then go to the paths of the dead. Aren't Halbarad and his men supposed to come too? Guess not.
Book: When they come to Dunharrow, the path is underground but the stone is outside in the middle of a terrorrized village and the army cannot be seen, but their presence can still be felt.
Movie: Dead people can be seen and are green. The main part doesn't even have a stone and the dead people are a lot more, well, not happy with the fact they have to fight to die.
Again: Stay true to the books!
We always see this whole love tie between Aragorn and Eowyn. What? Eowyn is suppossed to love Faramir. She hasn't met him yet so, I guess that's ok.
Book: There is no dawn that day and all is dark and always looking like night except if you look to the north or west. Faramir's men go to take back Osgiliath and this fails . so they run from the witch king on his beast and are getting hit around and Gandalf saves tham. Then the orcs take over the eastern gate and wall. Then Denethor sends another ride of Faramir. Faramir gets shot with a red arrow and can't fight. Denethor sends out another attack to pull back orcs on the pelennor, Plan succeeds and few men come back to the city of minas Tirith.
When Grond hits the gate it is being instructed by the Witch King ON A HORSE! Not a Beast, a horse. He then goes back and gets the beast.
Movie: Faramir is shot by a red arrow on the first attack to take back Osgiliath, not the second. Wall isn't taken because there is no wall. Faramir never sends out the second or third horse line. When Grond hits the gate it isn't being instructed by anyone.
Again: Stay true to the book!
Book: rohan talks to wild-men, who are trying to stop orcs from taking the forest and mountains. When they get to Minas Tirith, it is as dark as night. They ride and fight on the Pelennor, dawn starts to come and then the witch king comes, he kills Theoden, and breaks Eowyn and Merry's arm.
Then the mumaks come form the south, not east, south, with the harads and easterlings are coming from the northeast.
Aragorn and dead people take Corsairs and sail and destroy all the orcs and bad guys at Minas tirith. Denethor burns himself on a pyre.
Movie: TTT: We suppose the wild-men hate people because of Saruman, but in the book the wild-men help Theoden. At minas Tirith, it's alwats light. It's like never dark, always light, not true. Theoden dies after the mumaks come, wrong. Denethor and everything else is the same though.
Again: Stay true to the books!
Then they go to the houses of healing, not in the movie.
The last debate is actually out on the Pellennor because Aragorn refuses to go into the city until he is crowned king.
People who go to Black gate in book: Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, Pippin, Beregond, Gandalf.
Lieutenant comes out , Gandalf yells at him he leads an army to kill them. Eagles come, ring is destroyed and pippin is thought to be dead.
People who go to black gate in movie: Aragorn, Legolas, gimli, Merry, Pippin, Gandalf
EE: Lieutenant comes out Gandalf yells at him leads army to kill them, Eagles come, ring is destroyed, Pippin is alive.
now I go into Frodo and sam's journey:
Stayed really true to the books. Only 3 things:
1: Sam just walks through and doesn't even notice the watchers when he goes to cirith Ungol
2: Army picks up Frodo and Sam: would have made the movie more suspenseful
3: Gollum topples off because of his amazement of the ring, not because Frodo pushes him
Ending:
where's the battle of By-Water, where's wormtongue killing Saruman, where's lotho getting killed by Saruman, why does Frodo leave, these questions may never be answered.
All in all, this is one of the best movies I have ever seen. The effects were awesome, the color , the battles, mordor, Morgul, Cirith Ungol, minas Tirith, everything was cool. Im gonna watch this movie every day once i get it
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I don't understand why everyone thinks that ROTK had multiple endings or that it was a bad ending. There was only 1 ending to the film, and it was very good! Listen very carefully as I explain the end.
The fading out scene when Frodo and Sam were on the rock at Mt. Doom after they destroyed the Ring was NOT supposed to be the actual ending to the movie! It was to symbolize the official ending of the QUEST itself, it referred to the destruction of Sauron and the evil Ring--it was not the ending of the film, only the ending of the quest! After Frodo and Sam were rescued from Mt. Doom, Peter Jackson showed what happened to the remaining Fellowship after the quest had ended. There were NO multiple endings at all, only an explaination of what happened to the characters after the quest was completed. We get to see Aragorn reunite with Arwen, the hobbits return to the Shire, Sam and Rosie get married, Frodo completing his writing in Bilbo's book, and finally Frodo saying farewell to Middle-earth and sailing off to the Undying Lands. It was all done masterfully and touchingly, and was kind of a "happy/sad" situation. The real official ending of the movie, was when Sam returned home to the Shire and was joined by Rosie and the children. Sam returning home to Bag End was the actual ending to the film, and Peter Jackson did a great job! 3 BIG CHEERS FOR PJ, THE ENDING WAS GREAT--AND SO WAS ROTK!!!
Comment by Adree - May 16, 2004 @ 7:02 PM
Im only saying, since they had to make it 3 hours, that they had to cut out a lot of stuff. I should have just renamed it to "ROTK Review" and nothing more.
The ending was very good with the screen going black at the end of the quest. And at the Grey Havens, that was sweet. But you goota also give credit to Phillipa and Fran. They had written the best movie script I've ever seen. I just said it was different, not that it was bad because I loved that movie and only think there are tiny flaws that don't matter. I didn't say it was bad.
Comment by Khand - May 29, 2004 @ 10:28 AM
i agree with both of you. pj should not have left some of the details out but by that time the movie could be as long as 5 hours. adree the quest doesn't really end at the mountain. because there is the return journey. also a big part of the quest was going on to another life. trying to deal with all that had happened. but khand the tiny flaws DO matter. if you cut bergil and beregond and everyone else out you are leaving a section of the story. it is like leaving out frodo. then what would the whole point of the movie/book be? the ending made me and my friend cry @ the theater. it made you cry but you knew that things would be better if frodo went on the ship. thank you khand and adree for a really good argument! a really nice way to start the morning. i have fun arguing!
wingardium leviosa, Galabrien
Comment by Galabrien - June 1, 2004 @ 8:54 AM
well the flaws I didn't think mattered were like Gollum toppling off in amazement of the ring and Frodo and sam marching with the Orcs.
The big details that were bad were like Bergil and Beregond and the Watchers not even having an influence on Sam (i think that changes in the EE. I dont know)
The part that really got me. i thought this was the hugest detail they left out. The outer wall of minas Tirith. My God! how do you leave that out. It's even on the map of middle-earth. Second of all, Mordor had a little more than 10,000 orcs inside their walls.
I just think it's bad that they left a very important part out of Minas Tirith.
But o well, i hope some of that may change in the EE.
Comment by Khand - June 1, 2004 @ 5:46 PM
And they left out saruman!
Comment by Khand - June 2, 2004 @ 6:24 PM
Ok well obviously he hasnt seen the special edition which explains A LOT of the stuff he complains about, although they still dont mention Beregond.
Comment by Assassin901 - January 29, 2008 @ 10:33 AM
OK. We just re-watched ROTK, and noticed what seems to be a huge glaring error. Why is it that Saruman is not included in the portrait gallery that comes at the end of the movie, when the credits start rolling? It can't be because Saruman wasn't actually in the movie, since Baromere (sp?) had a portrait, and he wasn't in the last movie.
Anyone know why?
Comment by Jaimy George - January 1, 2011 @ 7:14 PM